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TC 10.7 > Meetings > January 14, 2002

Agenda for Technical Committee 10.7
2002 ASHRAE Winter Meeting in Atlantic City, NJ
January 14, 2002

  1. Welcome and Introduction:
    • The meeting was called to order by Chairman Buzz Schaeffer at 2:15 p.m. A sign-up sheet was circulated. Members and guests introduced themselves and their company affiliation.
  2. Review and Revise Agenda:
    • Buzz Schaeffer introduced the agenda. No changes were proposed and the agenda was approved as written.
  3. Recognition of Liaisons and Announcements:
    1. Handbook Committee Liaison: (G. Wyatt)

      Gerald Wyatt reported from the Handbook Committee. Proofs of submitted revisions for Chapters 47 and 48 will be distributed by ASHRAE within 2-3 months and will need to be approved by committee quickly and submitted to ASHRAE in June. Special attention should be paid to metric unit conversions as some mistakes have been noticed.

    2. Research Committee Liaison: (M. Hewett)

      Martha Hewett reported from the Research Committee. Our work statement for our Priority #1 research project "Benchmarking Energy Use in Supermarkets" has been approved. The project is currently on hold and the RAC will be meeting in two to three weeks to reprioritize their list and put selected projects out for bid. No information was available on where our project would fall, though our committee will be notified if the project is selected to go out for bid.

      RAC would like future projects to focus on critical needs in our industry due to a shortage of funds. More detailed work statements detailing a project’s relevance to our industry will be required.

      New guidelines are being written to deal with research projects receiving single bids for execution. This may entail receiving additional comments and rebidding the proposals.

      There is a May 10 deadline for submittal of work statements for existing RTARs. These should be submitted at least two weeks early so revisions can be made as necessary.

  4. Membership: (B. Schaeffer)
    • It was determined that a quorum was present (8 voting members present).
    • Rob Uhl volunteered to take over as Membership Chair and John Gallaher volunteered to replace Rob Uhl as Vice Chairman. Carl Roberts volunteered to become the webmaster for our committee.
    • Roster changes for our committee are to be submitted today. L. Hettinger motioned to open the floor to nomination of new Voting Members. The motion was seconded by M. Martin and approved unanimously.
    • Proposed changes included:
      - Removal of Elmer Subera, Charles Thomas and Shawn Knapp from the committee.
      - List Cynthia Gage and John Gallaher as Voting Members only (double listing)
      - Add Carl Roberts, Roger Wightman, Mark Menzer and Mike Palotsee as Corresponding Members.
      - Add M. Martin to list of Voting Members
  5. Minutes: (D. Hinde)
    • Written copies of the minutes of the TC 10.7 Meeting at the 2001 ASHRAE Annual Meeting in Cincinnati, Ohio were distributed for review prior to the 2002 Winter meeting. D. Hinde summarized the minutes. Minor changes were noted and are:
      - Correcting statement in Standards Committee report to read "An announcement from Doug Tucker (from ASHRAE) noted that drafts of revised ARI Standard 810 (automatic ice makers) and Standard 820 (ice storage machines) are available and reviewers are needed."

      Schaeffer motioned to approve the changes as noted. The motion was seconded by L. Hettinger and approved unanimously.

  6. Committee Reports:
    • Program Committee (H. Henderson)

      2002 Winter Meeting in Atlantic City, NJ Our first priority program, a symposium entitled "Advances in Commercial Refrigeration" was held earlier this morning. P. Hrnjak chaired this program and reported that there were three papers presented to an audience of about 85 people. Several favorable comments were received.

      Our second and third priority programs were not scheduled for this meeting and were a seminar chaired by V. Baxter on "Low Charge Refrigeration Systems" and a forum moderated by R. Faramarzi on "Market Barriers for Display Case Doors - Real or Perceived?"

      2002 Annual Meeting in Honolulu, HI
      A symposium chaired by P. Hrnjak on "Advanced Refrigeration Systems" chaired by P. Hrnjak has at least 3 papers submitted (and 4 working titles) and several people volunteered to assist in reviewing. It was also proposed to change the name to "Energy Efficient Technologies in Commercial Refrigeration."

      The two programs rejected for the Winter Meeting do not make sense for a summer meeting due to low end-user attendance and so should not be submitted for the Honolulu meeting. C. Gage had volunteered to chair a seminar on "Defrost and Temperature Control Strategies for Display Cases" however the status of this program is not known.

      A final program package for this meeting is due to ASHRAE by Feb. 8, 2002.

      A motion was made by B. Schaeffer to approve P. Hrnjak’s symposium as our #1 Priority program for the Annual Meeting. The motion was seconded by B. Burdwood and approved unanimously.

      2003 Winter Meeting in Chicago, IL
      The seminar on "Low Charge Refrigeration Systems" chaired by V. Baxter will be resubmitted for this meeting.

      A call for papers to form a symposium on "Supermarket Refrigeration Issues" was placed in the ASHRAE Journal by H. Henderson. Two abstracts were received and will be forwarded to P. Hrnjak for possible inclusion with some of the extra papers from the Honolulu program. Papers for this symposium would be due in April or May of this year for consideration.

      The program package for this meeting is due to ASHRAE by July 31, 2002. We may need to vote on a program package for this meeting prior to the Honolulu meeting as it is likely that a quorum will not be present.

      ASHRAE is encouraging committees to submit programs for the next meeting over the internet. V. Baxter reported that this is a fairly simple process.

    • Research Committee (B. Schaeffer for C. Gage)

      B. Schaeffer reported on research activities.

      Current Priority 1). "Benchmarking Energy Use in Supermarkets" - Work Statement has been approved (see attachment to these minutes) but the project is on hold pending reprioritizing of accepted projects by RAC. The DOE has given ASHRAE money for this project so it should be near the top of the list for approval.

      Current Priority 2). "Good Practices and Procedures for Commissioning Supermarket Refrigeration Systems" - RTAR has been submitted. J. Gallaher and B. Burdwood will be working on the Work Statement for this project.

      Current Priority 3). "Optimization of Air Curtain Performance in Display Cases" - RTAR is completed. R. Faramarzi and V. Baxter will be working on the Work Statement for this project.

      Current Priority 4). "Survey on Medium Temperature Display Cases" - No one has yet been selected to write the RTAR for this project.

      Submission of Work Statements for consideration at the Annual Meeting in Honolulu must be submitted to ASHRAE by May 10. Preferably, these should be submitted to M. Hewett two weeks prior to this date for her review and suggestions for improvement.

      Additional notes on the project bidding process include the rules that the committee Chair, Vice-Chair and Secretary should not bid on their committee’s research projects.

      Proposals for future projects were discussed. R. Faramarzi noted that Forums in the program are a good way to gather information and gauge interest in future research projects (our benchmarking project was formed this way). It was suggested that an email be sent to all committee members soliciting comments. Project proposals included "Controls and Fault Detection for Commercial Refrigeration Systems" and "Walk-in Cooler/Freezer Designs" addressing load calculation methods and defrosting issues.

    • Handbook Committee (R. Faramarzi)

      The final drafts of the chapter 47 and 48 revisions were submitted to ASHRAE and have been approved for adoption. The committee expressed thanks to Ramin for his valuable work on this project.

      B. Schaeffer noted that the main focus of the Chairman’s meeting was making the electronic version of the Handbook the primary source of information. More useful information can be included electronically including links to other chapters, websites, photos, video clips, etc. ASHRAE will be e-mailing a questionnaire all voting members to get feedback on this. Questions will address:

      - Guidance on version of video player for use with video and sound clips
      - Interactive graphics/animation software
      - Calculations/modeling requirements
      - Database requirements and software
      - Links to other chapters

      B. Schaeffer noted that the main focus of the President’s meeting was making the electronic version of the Handbook the primary source of information. More useful information can be included electronically including links to other chapters, websites, photos, video clips, etc. ASHRAE will be e-mailing a questionnaire all voting members to get feedback on this. Questions will address:

    • Standards Committee (V. Baxter)

      Van Baxter reported on standards activities.

      Standard 117 - Method of Testing Closed Refrigerators
      Publication of the completed standard is in the approval process and should be available for purchase by the Honolulu meeting.

      Standard 72 - Method of Testing Open Refrigerators
      Although Standard 72-1998 was just recently published, our committee must decide by October 14, 2002 if we would like to revise, reaffirm or to withdraw this standard. Some changes have been requested.

      A motion was made by J. Gallaher to revise the standard. The motion was seconded by B. Schaeffer. Discussion included the possibility that Standards 72 and 117 should be combined. Combining standards is encouraged by ASHRAE when appropriate. Following approval to revise Standard 72, it may be possible to expand the scope to accomplish this.

      A vote was then held to revise Standard 72 and was approved unanimously.

      John Rash volunteered to chair the sub-committee to revise these. Additional volunteers to assist with the revision included M. Palotsi, L. Hettinger, M. Martin, R. Faramarzi, M. Paquette and D. Hinde. Further details will be provided at the Honolulu meeting.

      Standard 32.1 - Methods of Testing for Rating Bottled and Canned Beverage Vending Machines
      Standard 32.2 - Methods of Testing for Rating Pre-Mix and Post-Mix Soft-Drink Vending and Dispensing Equipment
      M. Martin reported that the committee membership for revising these standards has been approved and consists of twelve people with wide industry representation. Fourteen people attended the subcommittee meeting on Sunday morning. Revisions to Standard 32.1 include provisions for equipment to turn machines off when not in use and should be fairly minor. Revisions to Standard 32.2 will be more extensive. Representatives from the Coca-Cola Company and McDonald’s indicated that the standard was "grossly out of date" and "lots of work will be needed."

      The revision of ARI Standard 810 - Automatic Commercial Ice Makers, and Standard 820 - Ice Storage Bins, is still an open issue. V. Baxter will look into how our committees interaction may be required and how these may relate to ASHRAE Standards 72 and 117, however no action appears to be required at this time.

      ASHRAE will be conducting a poll to gather information on how ASHRAE Standards are being referred to in other organizations standards or building codes. It was noted that our Standards 32.1, 72 and 117 are referenced in California building codes and their Appliance Energy Efficiency Standards which will be adopted soon.

  7. New Business
    • P. Hrnjak announced the jointly sponsored University of Illinois and IIR Conference on "New Technologies in Commercial Refrigeration" which will be held July 22-23, 2002 in Urbana, IL. This conference takes place following the International Compressor Engineering Conference and the International Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Conference at Purdue University held July 16-19, 2002. They are still soliciting for papers and flyers are available from him.

      B. Schaeffer requested that members go to the ASHRAE website and update their e-mail addresses.

  8. Adjournment

    The meeting was adjourned at 4:15 p.m.
    These minutes are submitted by David Hinde, April 25, 2002.



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